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Post by Bassboy3313 on Wed May 19, 2010 7:54 pm

Will these fittings and hose work for the high pressure line from the pump to the rack? They are from http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/.

High Pressure:
(2) AER-FCM4032 -6AN 90 degree reusable elbow fitting
(1) AER-FCM2240 -6AN to 14mm x 1.5, AN to metric fitting
(1) AER-FCM2241 -6AN to 16mm x 1.5, AN to metric fitting
(2 ft.) AER-FBC0600 -6AN Teflon Racing Hose

Also, what are the fitting sizes and line sizes for the rest of the power steering lines including line from reservoir to pump, rack to reservoir, etc.
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Post by LongGrain on Wed May 19, 2010 8:27 pm

if those are normal AN hose ends, then no. they wont work.

AN hose ends are not rated for that kind of pressure.

you can get braided high pressure lines from MA motorsports.

as far as the other lines go, I'm pretty sure you can do normal AN fittings, but you'll have to either weld a fitting to your res or get an aftermarket one.

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Post by Bassboy3313 on Wed May 19, 2010 8:53 pm

arent the hose ends in the pictures in this thread normal AN hose ends?

http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/203093-stainless-steel-braided-high-pressure-line.html
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Post by LongGrain on Wed May 19, 2010 9:47 pm

no

thats an MA motorsports high pressure line.

uses special hose ends and line.

theres a reason it costs $100+ when you could build a normal ass AN line like that for like 40 bucks

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Post by Bassboy3313 on Thu May 20, 2010 7:33 am

ok. i know the hose from my original post is rated for the pressure and can be used for power steering, i just dont know where to get the fittings and hose ends then. what do i look for in the hose ends to know that they are rated for the pressure?
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Post by LongGrain on Thu May 20, 2010 2:06 pm

well generally, anything that you can install yourself without some kind of specialized machine thing will not be rated for pressure.

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Post by LongGrain on Thu May 20, 2010 2:11 pm

HEY DUDE

companies SELL high pressure lines for a reason.

that reason is because you cant assemble them yourself without highly specialized equipment

its not just like a swivel seal hose end where all you need is your hands and a wrench.

jesus fucking christ

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Post by 14k on Thu May 20, 2010 3:50 pm

Easy Longrain


he's right though you need to find someone to make you hydraulic hoses or order some rated at very high pressure. I know some shops that work on semi-trucks make them try that or just go to napa and get the one for your car.
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Post by Bassboy3313 on Thu May 20, 2010 5:55 pm

LongGrain wrote:HEY DUDE

companies SELL high pressure lines for a reason.

that reason is because you cant assemble them yourself without highly specialized equipment

its not just like a swivel seal hose end where all you need is your hands and a wrench.

jesus fucking christ

oh so i guess the stock banjo bolt you cant put on with your hands and a wrench then huh!

Below is taken straight from the website. so you are telling me that a -6AN hose rated for 2500 psi isnt good enough for power steering even when it clearly says it is compatible in the description? s13 power steering high pressure is around 1100 psi to begin with (if i remember correctly).

Aeroquip Teflon Racing Hose

Superior fluid compatibility, abrasion and corrosion resistance for reliable service. Made with an extruded Teflon inner tube that's compatible with a wide range of fluids, including hydraulic brake fluids. The hose has a bright stainless steel wire-braid cover that resists abrasion and corrosion, providing optimum dependability. Applications: Offraod brake, transmission, clutch, gauge, N20, power steering, hydraulic.

-03 specs: 0.14 Hose ID, 0.25 Hose OD, Max operating pressure of 3000 PSI
-04 specs: 0.19 Hose ID, 0.30 Hose OD, Max operating pressure of 3000 PSI
-06 specs: 0.32 Hose ID, 0.43 Hose OD, Max operating pressure of 2500 PSI
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Post by LongGrain on Fri May 21, 2010 2:04 am

go ahead. put fucking normal ass hose ends on that and be pissed when the blow off and leak and shit.

dont even bother asking for fucking advice next time if you arent going to listen to it, faggot.

fucking hate people that ask for help and then tell all the people helping them that they are wrong.

god damn.

probably going to get banned for this post, but whatever. Do what you want.

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Post by Bassboy3313 on Fri May 21, 2010 9:25 am

i wasnt talking about the ends man, just the hose. you need to chill out. i never said i wasnt going to listen about the ends. i understand that the ends should be pressure rated just as the hose should be. I was just clarifying that the hose i mentioned was indeed pressure rated for the correct amount.

The fittings and ends are the only thing holding people back from making these themselves and saving money. yeah buying from a supplier cost $100+, but I would assume that they cost that much because they have to make a profit. Thats only an assumption though.

EDIT: I found the 90 degree ends for the teflon hose stated earlier. total with the 2 90 degree ends for teflon hose, pressure rated teflon hose, and the 2 AN to metric adapters comes out to be $48.98 before shipping.

http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/product/5965/Aeroquip_Steel_TFE_Hose_Fittings


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Post by LongGrain on Fri May 21, 2010 2:42 pm

you still dont get it

its not the TYPE of ends

its not the TYPE of hose

its how they are assembled

you need special machines to attach ends rated for pressure.

notice on your stock high pressure line, the end is not threaded on, its crimped on all crazy industrial spec.

the machine that does that costs a million dollars.

thats why a high pressure line costs 140 dollars even though the material is less than 100.

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Post by X1nom3D on Fri May 21, 2010 6:58 pm

I think you should listen to LongGrain on this one. The parts from the site you're looking at seems to be just parts itself. In order for it to work for you, you'll need to invest in your own crimper, or if you have access to one that meets the needs.

Just spend some more money and get it right. You won't have to mess with it later that way.

Other companies sell high pressure rated kits that come already assembled, that's why it costs more. Sure that site you mentioned have high pressure rated parts, but how are you gonna put it together? It won't be reliable, that's what LongGrain is trying to say.

EDIT: and trust me, if saving money is what you're trying to do. In the long run, you'd save more if you spend more now. The crimping dies alone costs anywhere from $200 to thousands.... per die.
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Post by Bassboy3313 on Fri May 21, 2010 9:15 pm

alrighty guys. every hose i see looks like its pieced together just as every other braided hose is. i just like the satisfaction of making things myself. guess this wont be one of them. Sad
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Post by LongGrain on Sat May 22, 2010 7:46 pm

you can do all the other lines with normal AN swivel seal hose ends (the normal red and blue ones you always see people use), just not the high pressure line.

and while your re-doing your PS lines, throw in a cooler also.

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Post by Bassboy3313 on Sun May 23, 2010 1:10 pm

ok sounds good. is a cooler necessary on an NA engine?
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Post by LongGrain on Sun May 23, 2010 1:25 pm

NA has nothing to do with your PS fluid temps.

its just a nice thing to have, especially if you are running larger wheels and tires.

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Post by Bassboy3313 on Sun May 23, 2010 7:31 pm

okie dokie!
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