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Post by yamaproject on Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:28 pm

Does anyone know where to get a good base MAP for a KA-T ? Using the Greddy E-Blue? thankx scratch

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Post by mmm240 on Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:29 pm

E blue? I think you're makin shit up. lol. I've never heard of it
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Post by forcedtojoin on Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:45 pm

u mean e-management
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Post by yamaproject on Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:29 pm

Yes I should have been a little bit more descriptive. Its the Greddy e-mange blue. They also have the Greddy Ultimate. Im just shopping around for a good base MAP. Plan to turbo the KA soon. What a Face

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Post by boostin240 on Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:42 am

Honestly that is the worst setup you can put on a KA-T. Its way too expensive and its still a piggyback. Unless you go full standalone, save yourself the money, ditch the E-manage crap and pick up a calumsult or nistune ECU setup and then use either Nistune software with nistune/calum board or use tuner pro to fine tune a base map.
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Post by yamaproject on Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:29 pm

Thanks for the info I will keep it in mind.

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Post by boostin240 on Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:08 pm

yamaproject wrote:Thanks for the info I will keep it in mind.

No problem... if you need more info or whatever else in regards to the Calumsult real time ECU or nistune, let me know and ill swing some information your way. Im currently running Calumsult on my KA-T and I have no issues. Car runs and idles like stock and so far its been boosting 8 psi without issues.
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Post by mmm240 on Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:10 pm

You're only pushing 8 pounds and praising? An SAFC can handle that.
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Post by boostin240 on Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:23 pm

mmm240 wrote:You're only pushing 8 pounds and praising? An SAFC can handle that.

LOL .... just because im on 8 psi now, doesnt mean I wont be pushing more soon. Yes an SAFC can handle that... but one thing it cannot handle is timing. What you dont realize and the reason many KA setups end up blowing up is that as your SAFC tricks your stock ECU into thinking there is more/less air coming in it causes the ECU to chang timing in accordance to the appropriate map. If your ECU advances timing too much because of that you will have detonation which will eventually cause your motor to go bye bye.

On another note, dont compare pressure without comparing turbochargers either. 8 psi on one turbo does not produce the same amount of power on another turbo. At 5 psi when I had it dynoed for shits and giggles when I was on an SAFC I put down 210 whp. Thats 40whp more then a stock SR which is pushing 7 psi. A redtop or blacktop S13 motor run T25s. I run a hybrid t3/t4 60 trim garret. Per lb of boost my turbo will push more power then a T25. At 12-15 psi I should hit 300whp, on a T25 at 12 psi you might make 230 whp, maybe 250.

An SAFC on a turbo car might be okay if the ecu is a turbo ecu. On a N/A > Turbo conversion an SAFC is not a safe bet. You have to realize an N/A engines ECU doesnt understand boost very well and as a result wont handle it very well. And piggybacks will always be piggybacks. Regardless for the $300 you pay for a Real time ECU you cant beat it. Its about as much as an SAFC but has tons more tuning points. And its a lot cheaper then both a standalone and a ROM tune.
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Post by boostin240 on Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:33 pm

mmm240 wrote:You're only pushing 8 pounds and praising? An SAFC can handle that.

Also mr. know it all, im runing 52 lb top feed injectors which is about 550 cc and thats the limit that an SAFC II can control on a KA ecu. Therefore if my injectors were any bigger id be SOL with an SAFC, again another reason why SAFCs arent worth the money.

And you dont have to take my word for it, just do your research, both calumsult and nistune are used on high horsepower applications across the country and in Australia where Nistune was developed. So before you make some xross jerk comments do your homework son.
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Post by boostin240 on Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:42 pm

Here is a screenshot of Nistune:




And here is tunerpro which is free and works with calumsult.



A bit more plain compared to Nistune, but for free you can complain, besides you can run Tunerpro first and step up to Nistune once you have an extra $200.
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Post by mmm240 on Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:04 am

All you said was that an SAFC will work fine
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Post by boostin240 on Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:59 am

mmm240 wrote:All you said was that an SAFC will work fine

Allright then go ahead slap some 660 cc injectors and turbo on your KA and boost 12 psi on an SAFC...
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Post by mmm240 on Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:15 pm

Woohooo! I've got the go ahead! I'm just messin with ya dude. I'm still collecting ecu stuff. So far I've got a VPC and an SAFC
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Post by yamaproject on Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:21 am

Well I do appreciate that you guys a sharing...I will keep it in mind...I just got called back to work. So then I can make some loot to build up the KA.

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