i need some type of advice...

by traphikcod4 Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:54 pm

now i know everyone will have there debate about this...
but im looking to get my 240 back up and running
but i dont know weither to go sr.
or find a ka24de and spend the same ammount and turbo that...
i want my car to be turbo by the summer..
work kicks my ass with most my time so its gonna take a while
bc im the only one working on my car...
and i dont have that much time to sit and shop for parts
unles someone wants to help *hint hint* haha jp

so i would like to just hear what a few of you guys got on your mind...
and nick if i could i would go 2jz lmao....

thanks for everyones imput or w.e you wanna call it...

by u2chuki Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:23 pm

you can go ka-t for under a grand. why not.

by simon Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:43 pm

stick with the KA

turbos are overrated. .

by Vlad Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:44 pm

Go sr, its jdm bro!

Check the compression in the KA, and just make sure its worth it. Before you do anything go on http://www.ka-t.org/ and read some of their stickey's. Getting a proper tune is also very important on a ka-t set up it seems.

They have a thread that has different power goal brackets and lists the things they recommend to get. AMS I believe built some ka-t drag car, so they may be a good place for some advice.

My point is, don't half ass it. Read up on it before you do anything.

by simon Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:18 pm

you can turbo your KA for 1000 bux

hit up topspeed

SRs are overrated too. .

by 1sts13turbo Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:42 pm

my ka-t pulls like hell with a stock sr turbo. and a stock ka bottom end. it was some work. but way worth it.

by u2chuki Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:21 pm

ive dealt with ka's for quite some time now, ive found that best streetable setup on a ka is t3 50trim setup. get 550 cc injectors or so, walbro pump, and a good tune, you can be at arount 300hp which is plenty for streets.

if you want to go cheaper setup go with t25 or so gt28rs bottom mount. super fast spool time, but fuel system should be pretty much as t3 setup. like Vlad said tho check out ka-t.org

by Vlad Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:08 pm

I have been doing some research on it, and it seems that the reason a lot of people like to bitch and moan about then engine blowing and stuff, is because they do not get a proper tune.

Even with like 240-250 hp the car should be fast as hell. Just dont get cheap crap and then complain when it blows. You get what you pay for. I guess you can get a whole turbo set up for a grand, but will it be pure crap?

Just dont jump into something your not ready for. A lot of people stay KA for a while. I came from a Honda with no power to my S14. It feels awesome. But... thats just me.

If you have a stock car and want to just be fast... then thats stupid, in my humble opinion at least.

Get some coilovers, and some arms maybe before you make your car really fast.

If you want a ka-t to be done the right way the first time, dont limit yourself to just $1000. Do a lot more reading up.

Also did you consider the fact that you need to be able to STOP the car.

Since you said you would spend the same amount on a Ka-t as you would on a SR you should be good, because thats about what it would cost to build one the right way.

That brings me to the end of my novel...

by jdmj914 Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:26 am

My suggestion would be to just save enough for an sr. You wont have to worry about getting shit tuned or any of the crap that comes with turbo'ing a motor that was originally na. Especially if all you want to do is go turbo. IMO getting an sr to just drop in and play is the best way to go. Not because it's jdm or any of that bs, but because It will save you the headaches and time.

by simon Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:35 am

Vlad wrote:I have been doing some research on it, and it seems that the reason a lot of people like to bitch and moan about then engine blowing and stuff, is because they do not get a proper tune.

Even with like 240-250 hp the car should be fast as hell. Just dont get cheap crap and then complain when it blows. You get what you pay for. I guess you can get a whole turbo set up for a grand, but will it be pure crap?

Just dont jump into something your not ready for. A lot of people stay KA for a while. I came from a Honda with no power to my S14. It feels awesome. But... thats just me.

If you have a stock car and want to just be fast... then thats stupid, in my humble opinion at least.

Get other coilovers, and some arms maybe before you make your car really fast.

If you want a ka-t to be done the right way the first time, dont limit yourself to just $1000. Do a lot more reading up.

Also did you consider the fact that you need to be able to STOP the car.

Since you said you would spend the same amount on a Ka-t as you would on a SR you should be good, because thats about what it would cost to build one the right way.

That brings me to the end of my novel...

by Vlad Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:37 am

jdmj914 wrote:My suggestion would be to just save enough for an sr. You wont have to worry about getting shit tuned or any of the crap that comes with turbo'ing a motor that was originally na. Especially if all you want to do is go turbo. IMO getting an sr to just drop in and play is the best way to go. Not because it's jdm or any of that bs, but because It will save you the headaches and time.

Explain to me how it will save time. If you know what your doing your fine. If you dont know what your doing, it doesnt matter what your swapping, you still wont know wtf your doing.

And what are you talking about simon....

by simon Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:35 am

im kidden vlad your post has truth.. i wanted to use thatn gif hah

by jdmj914 Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:21 am

Vlad wrote:
jdmj914 wrote:My suggestion would be to just save enough for an sr. You wont have to worry about getting shit tuned or any of the crap that comes with turbo'ing a motor that was originally na. Especially if all you want to do is go turbo. IMO getting an sr to just drop in and play is the best way to go. Not because it's jdm or any of that bs, but because It will save you the headaches and time.

Explain to me how it will save time. If you know what your doing your fine. If you dont know what your doing, it doesnt matter what your swapping, you still wont know wtf your doing.

And what are you talking about simon....

Of course, if you don't know what the hell you're doing then you're not going to get anywhere. Whether it be an sr or ka. As far as saving time.. I mean that by getting an sr all he has to do is find a SR, pay someone to drop it in for him and he will be done. There's no need for part shopping as opposed to going with turbo charging a KA. He did mention he has no time to work on his car. Now if he plans on doing it all himself, then he's going to have to spend some time researching and shopping for whatever it is he may need. I just find it easier and quicker to just buy an already boosted SR than having to boost one. Makes sense?

by 1sts13turbo Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:50 pm

both pionts are valid. realy it is just the time and $ you have.

by Bassboy3313 Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:36 pm

^^^ +1 to that. I would say go ka-t since sr's are too played out, but thats just my opinion. everyone has there own opinion. you know? it all comes down to what you feel comfortable doing.

by Vlad Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:01 pm

Everything is "played out." We drive 240's, whatever we do someone has done before. Get real guys, your not starting a new trend or anything with these cars. Whatever you do has been done a million times over.

by Rad Mike Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:26 pm

Stop spending money on a 20 year old car.

by traphikcod4 Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:42 am

i think the shopping part for me is gonna be the most difficult part.
like doing all the handy work and shit i got some guys that wouldnt mind helpin for a few beers and shit but i was thinkin the same thing with the sr's being "over-rated" but at the same time its not....
i know this lil argument/disscussion can go on for ever about the ka vs sr

id like to thank everyone for the comments. im not the type to get shitty with anyone
i can take destructibe crit...

ok so i made the choice i am gonna go Ka-t

now does anyone have helpful links for some shit for the ka-t
bc like i said with work and practice and the army...
i have hardly any comp time to sit and go shopping to find deals.
now im not asking for you guys to do all the work for me or nothing...
but im sure you guys got a bunch of links...

thanks again

by Vlad Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:56 am

traphikcod4 wrote:
now does anyone have helpful links for some shit for the ka-t

I gave you the best link for info on ka-t. Look back at my posts.

by traphikcod4 Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:10 am

i know i got that...
im asking it as if anyone has anymore...

and thanks

by Vlad Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:16 am

You can find info on the general S chassis forums, but everything you need can be found on the one I gave you.

by simon Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:20 am

Rad Mike wrote:Stop spending money on a 20 year old car.

by **Flicktitty** Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:51 pm

i know you said you have you mind made up. but here is my .02

I would go SR20. i've seen a few online for anywhere from $2200-$2500 shipped to this area.
Plus $150ish for a shop do to the wiring service (to go plug and play) then figure another $100
or so on a new Walbro 255lph fuel pump, and you should be ok to go. it would be smart to change out
a few of the things on the SR though before putting it in the car (Waterpump,belts,plugs,hoses,etc)
so between $3000 and $4000 you would have a solid 200ish HP SR20DET car. that would be a little easier.

like some people say, you will have to get the KA oil pan welded to run a oil feed/return line. and if you
can't weld that will cost money and time to get someone to do it RIGHT. plus just alot of running around getting
fittings and lines, or if you need to go to junkyards to get injectors or intercoolers all is gonna take time which seems
you don't have.

the KA i think will be cheaper but it will be a little more "work" in my opinion. just make sure the new KA you get is in
GOOD shape before doing anything.

if you need me for anything you got my number.

by slo40sx Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:58 pm

I agree with flicktitty ^^^^^^^ well said man

by LongGrain Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:55 pm

KA-T is way too much work...

SR will be cheaper in the long run, more reliable, and easier to work on.

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