braided power steering lines
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braided power steering lines
Will these fittings and hose work for the high pressure line from the pump to the rack? They are from http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/.
High Pressure:
(2) AER-FCM4032 -6AN 90 degree reusable elbow fitting
(1) AER-FCM2240 -6AN to 14mm x 1.5, AN to metric fitting
(1) AER-FCM2241 -6AN to 16mm x 1.5, AN to metric fitting
(2 ft.) AER-FBC0600 -6AN Teflon Racing Hose
Also, what are the fitting sizes and line sizes for the rest of the power steering lines including line from reservoir to pump, rack to reservoir, etc.
High Pressure:
(2) AER-FCM4032 -6AN 90 degree reusable elbow fitting
(1) AER-FCM2240 -6AN to 14mm x 1.5, AN to metric fitting
(1) AER-FCM2241 -6AN to 16mm x 1.5, AN to metric fitting
(2 ft.) AER-FBC0600 -6AN Teflon Racing Hose
Also, what are the fitting sizes and line sizes for the rest of the power steering lines including line from reservoir to pump, rack to reservoir, etc.
Bassboy3313- Number of posts : 238
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Re: braided power steering lines
if those are normal AN hose ends, then no. they wont work.
AN hose ends are not rated for that kind of pressure.
you can get braided high pressure lines from MA motorsports.
as far as the other lines go, I'm pretty sure you can do normal AN fittings, but you'll have to either weld a fitting to your res or get an aftermarket one.
AN hose ends are not rated for that kind of pressure.
you can get braided high pressure lines from MA motorsports.
as far as the other lines go, I'm pretty sure you can do normal AN fittings, but you'll have to either weld a fitting to your res or get an aftermarket one.
LongGrain- Number of posts : 726
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Re: braided power steering lines
arent the hose ends in the pictures in this thread normal AN hose ends?
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/203093-stainless-steel-braided-high-pressure-line.html
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/203093-stainless-steel-braided-high-pressure-line.html
Bassboy3313- Number of posts : 238
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Re: braided power steering lines
no
thats an MA motorsports high pressure line.
uses special hose ends and line.
theres a reason it costs $100+ when you could build a normal ass AN line like that for like 40 bucks
thats an MA motorsports high pressure line.
uses special hose ends and line.
theres a reason it costs $100+ when you could build a normal ass AN line like that for like 40 bucks
LongGrain- Number of posts : 726
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Re: braided power steering lines
ok. i know the hose from my original post is rated for the pressure and can be used for power steering, i just dont know where to get the fittings and hose ends then. what do i look for in the hose ends to know that they are rated for the pressure?
Bassboy3313- Number of posts : 238
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Re: braided power steering lines
well generally, anything that you can install yourself without some kind of specialized machine thing will not be rated for pressure.
LongGrain- Number of posts : 726
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Re: braided power steering lines
HEY DUDE
companies SELL high pressure lines for a reason.
that reason is because you cant assemble them yourself without highly specialized equipment
its not just like a swivel seal hose end where all you need is your hands and a wrench.
jesus fucking christ
companies SELL high pressure lines for a reason.
that reason is because you cant assemble them yourself without highly specialized equipment
its not just like a swivel seal hose end where all you need is your hands and a wrench.
jesus fucking christ
LongGrain- Number of posts : 726
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Re: braided power steering lines
Easy Longrain
he's right though you need to find someone to make you hydraulic hoses or order some rated at very high pressure. I know some shops that work on semi-trucks make them try that or just go to napa and get the one for your car.
he's right though you need to find someone to make you hydraulic hoses or order some rated at very high pressure. I know some shops that work on semi-trucks make them try that or just go to napa and get the one for your car.
Re: braided power steering lines
LongGrain wrote:HEY DUDE
companies SELL high pressure lines for a reason.
that reason is because you cant assemble them yourself without highly specialized equipment
its not just like a swivel seal hose end where all you need is your hands and a wrench.
jesus fucking christ
oh so i guess the stock banjo bolt you cant put on with your hands and a wrench then huh!
Below is taken straight from the website. so you are telling me that a -6AN hose rated for 2500 psi isnt good enough for power steering even when it clearly says it is compatible in the description? s13 power steering high pressure is around 1100 psi to begin with (if i remember correctly).
Aeroquip Teflon Racing Hose
Superior fluid compatibility, abrasion and corrosion resistance for reliable service. Made with an extruded Teflon inner tube that's compatible with a wide range of fluids, including hydraulic brake fluids. The hose has a bright stainless steel wire-braid cover that resists abrasion and corrosion, providing optimum dependability. Applications: Offraod brake, transmission, clutch, gauge, N20, power steering, hydraulic.
-03 specs: 0.14 Hose ID, 0.25 Hose OD, Max operating pressure of 3000 PSI
-04 specs: 0.19 Hose ID, 0.30 Hose OD, Max operating pressure of 3000 PSI
-06 specs: 0.32 Hose ID, 0.43 Hose OD, Max operating pressure of 2500 PSI
Bassboy3313- Number of posts : 238
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Re: braided power steering lines
go ahead. put fucking normal ass hose ends on that and be pissed when the blow off and leak and shit.
dont even bother asking for fucking advice next time if you arent going to listen to it, faggot.
fucking hate people that ask for help and then tell all the people helping them that they are wrong.
god damn.
probably going to get banned for this post, but whatever. Do what you want.
dont even bother asking for fucking advice next time if you arent going to listen to it, faggot.
fucking hate people that ask for help and then tell all the people helping them that they are wrong.
god damn.
probably going to get banned for this post, but whatever. Do what you want.
LongGrain- Number of posts : 726
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Re: braided power steering lines
i wasnt talking about the ends man, just the hose. you need to chill out. i never said i wasnt going to listen about the ends. i understand that the ends should be pressure rated just as the hose should be. I was just clarifying that the hose i mentioned was indeed pressure rated for the correct amount.
The fittings and ends are the only thing holding people back from making these themselves and saving money. yeah buying from a supplier cost $100+, but I would assume that they cost that much because they have to make a profit. Thats only an assumption though.
EDIT: I found the 90 degree ends for the teflon hose stated earlier. total with the 2 90 degree ends for teflon hose, pressure rated teflon hose, and the 2 AN to metric adapters comes out to be $48.98 before shipping.
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/product/5965/Aeroquip_Steel_TFE_Hose_Fittings
The fittings and ends are the only thing holding people back from making these themselves and saving money. yeah buying from a supplier cost $100+, but I would assume that they cost that much because they have to make a profit. Thats only an assumption though.
EDIT: I found the 90 degree ends for the teflon hose stated earlier. total with the 2 90 degree ends for teflon hose, pressure rated teflon hose, and the 2 AN to metric adapters comes out to be $48.98 before shipping.
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/product/5965/Aeroquip_Steel_TFE_Hose_Fittings
Last edited by Bassboy3313 on Fri May 21, 2010 9:55 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : found hose ends)
Bassboy3313- Number of posts : 238
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Re: braided power steering lines
you still dont get it
its not the TYPE of ends
its not the TYPE of hose
its how they are assembled
you need special machines to attach ends rated for pressure.
notice on your stock high pressure line, the end is not threaded on, its crimped on all crazy industrial spec.
the machine that does that costs a million dollars.
thats why a high pressure line costs 140 dollars even though the material is less than 100.
its not the TYPE of ends
its not the TYPE of hose
its how they are assembled
you need special machines to attach ends rated for pressure.
notice on your stock high pressure line, the end is not threaded on, its crimped on all crazy industrial spec.
the machine that does that costs a million dollars.
thats why a high pressure line costs 140 dollars even though the material is less than 100.
LongGrain- Number of posts : 726
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Re: braided power steering lines
I think you should listen to LongGrain on this one. The parts from the site you're looking at seems to be just parts itself. In order for it to work for you, you'll need to invest in your own crimper, or if you have access to one that meets the needs.
Just spend some more money and get it right. You won't have to mess with it later that way.
Other companies sell high pressure rated kits that come already assembled, that's why it costs more. Sure that site you mentioned have high pressure rated parts, but how are you gonna put it together? It won't be reliable, that's what LongGrain is trying to say.
EDIT: and trust me, if saving money is what you're trying to do. In the long run, you'd save more if you spend more now. The crimping dies alone costs anywhere from $200 to thousands.... per die.
Just spend some more money and get it right. You won't have to mess with it later that way.
Other companies sell high pressure rated kits that come already assembled, that's why it costs more. Sure that site you mentioned have high pressure rated parts, but how are you gonna put it together? It won't be reliable, that's what LongGrain is trying to say.
EDIT: and trust me, if saving money is what you're trying to do. In the long run, you'd save more if you spend more now. The crimping dies alone costs anywhere from $200 to thousands.... per die.
X1nom3D- Number of posts : 57
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Re: braided power steering lines
alrighty guys. every hose i see looks like its pieced together just as every other braided hose is. i just like the satisfaction of making things myself. guess this wont be one of them.
Bassboy3313- Number of posts : 238
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Re: braided power steering lines
you can do all the other lines with normal AN swivel seal hose ends (the normal red and blue ones you always see people use), just not the high pressure line.
and while your re-doing your PS lines, throw in a cooler also.
and while your re-doing your PS lines, throw in a cooler also.
LongGrain- Number of posts : 726
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Re: braided power steering lines
ok sounds good. is a cooler necessary on an NA engine?
Bassboy3313- Number of posts : 238
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Re: braided power steering lines
NA has nothing to do with your PS fluid temps.
its just a nice thing to have, especially if you are running larger wheels and tires.
its just a nice thing to have, especially if you are running larger wheels and tires.
LongGrain- Number of posts : 726
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Re: braided power steering lines
okie dokie!
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