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Post by mmm240 Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:29 pm

LongGrain wrote:rust converter will NOT fix that

and bondo is NOT structural. you cant just lay bondo over a hole. it will just crack out. you need to cut that metal out and weld in new sheets. bondo is just a finisher...
I know dude. I am going to sand it down to bare metal and hit it with the rust convert where I can't sand; which won't be much. I also have some adhesive mesh that I will put over the holes.

Thanks Simon, but Imma give this a shot.
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Post by LongGrain Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:29 pm

^^ thats still not going to hold for more than a day or so of driving, but do what you want. its not my car.

there is nothing special about convertible quarter panels. S13 verts all started as coupes in japan, then a contracted company in america cut them into convertibles.

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Post by mmm240 Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:31 pm

Yeah, ASC. I just wasn't sure if they modified the quarters
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Post by simon Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:35 pm

that sounds right.. so what you need is a coupe parts car.

all bondo will do is cover up rust, which is exactly what you DONT want to do.

and if I were you, id make sure that the undercoating that guy sprayed on your rails isnt holding moisture inside, making them rust as well..

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Post by mmm240 Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:46 pm

The rust converter goes on before the bondo. I used it on my bumper without sanding any of the rust away; it's hard as nails now. Two coats brushed on and one sprayed was plenty. After I sand this down to bare metal I'll apply the same amount of rust converter on the little rust I couldn't get (which will be no where near the amount that is on my bumper) Yes, I know you can't completely kill rust, but it's gonna take a long ass time for it to come back through 3 coats of the converter, a coat of bondo, two coats of primer, however many coats of paint, and a clear coat.
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Post by homeboy. Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:48 pm

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Post by LongGrain Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:55 pm

putting a bandaid on a bullet hole.

sounds effective.

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Post by roski Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:01 pm

if you cant see it .. its not there. .

AHaHahahaHA

WI is on a roll
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Post by mmm240 Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:03 pm

A bandaid that will last longer than I will own the car, and then some. There's nothing wrong with this method. Bondo gets a bad name because people don't prep. It's the same as when someone rattle cans a car; If you prep properly and wet sand afterward it will great.
When ten or so years go by and I for some reason still own the car and the rust comes through, I'll look you up just so you can have the satisfaction of saying 'I told you so'
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Post by mmm240 Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:04 pm

In ten or so years the new steel that I would have welded in will rust anyways because we live in the Midwest
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Post by Flicktitty Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:32 pm

you got more will power then i do to do that kind of shit.

but i agree, pick up a welder and teach yourself, you'll be glad you did.
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Post by LongGrain Fri May 01, 2009 3:27 am

what the fuck do you mean bondo gets a bad rep

bondo is great. but your using it for the WRONG THING, period. the way you intend to "fix" your rust with bondo is WRONG. its not going to work, period. its going to crack and pop out, I give it a week if you are lucky.

you cant claim you are a newb to body work, and then try to shun everyone that tells you how to do shit right, when you are clearly uneducated in the topic. Do it right the first time or dont do it at all. you are just going to create more work for yourself.

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Post by eS 13_maJiK Fri May 01, 2009 8:09 am

LongGrain wrote:putting a bandaid on a bullet hole.

sounds effective.

worked for the crack in ben's windshield haha
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Post by simon Fri May 01, 2009 9:17 am

eS 13_maJiK wrote:
LongGrain wrote:putting a bandaid on a bullet hole.

sounds effective.

worked for the crack in ben's windshield haha

wait until theres a realllllly cold winter day, see what happens.

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Post by lizmo Fri May 01, 2009 9:30 am

not true... my windshield on my daily has had a crack since i got it and it only got bigger b/c of a fucking car wash spraying high pressure water at it... and i drove the car thru winter. crack didn't get any bigger.
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Post by mmm240 Fri May 01, 2009 9:36 am

And that happened because you didn't weld in new steel. lol
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Post by 14k Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:14 pm

So how does it look?

Did it last or u doing it twice?
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Post by mmm240 Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:38 pm

Um, well, see, I never finished; barely started. Work got in the way. I should be working on it today, but I'm working on the truck instead.
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Post by Jeff G Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:10 pm

14k wrote:So how does it look?

Did it last or u doing it twice?

Bored today? It looks like you're checking on everyones car progress, which isn't such a bad thing. I'm curious to see how they're going too!

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Post by 14k Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:31 pm

im super bored and this place is super dead
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Post by Jeff G Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:16 pm

I keep checking in every little while, and you're the only one who seems to be on! Something about 80's and sunny....
Sadly, I haven't spent even a minute working on my car today Sad I need motivation!

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Post by mmm240 Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:40 pm

I hear ya bout motivation. I'm happy enough doing yard work today. And Eron, don't say anything bout thread jacking, cause it's my thread lol
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Post by Flicktitty Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:26 am

CA updates? yes?
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Post by mmm240 Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:23 am

The block is at borchards. Getting decked and hot tanked.
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