Keep my built SR20 or build an RB?

why do you need 500whp on an SR? you should try just boosting something like a gt2871r at 25psi... all a 35r is gonna get you is a fast highway car.

why do you need 500whp on an SR? you should try just boosting something like a gt2871r at 25psi... all a 35r is gonna get you is a fast highway car.

Well, I DD the car but I also take the car to the drag strip on some weekends. My particular group of friends are drag heads. There are a few 5.0 Mustangs and a Trans Am, and they are fast. So my goal is to make a daily driver that can be a drag monster on weekends.

That's why. And I run a GT2871R .64 and I've hit 22 psi and I want more. I'm definitely hitting the limits of my turbo right now. The .64 is really only good to 400 HP. I'm maxing it, trust me. Granted, a 35R is a little much, but I do want something bigger than my current snail.

fastSRmedic wrote: pending the sale of my 2871R.

To me right?

To me right?

You got it

I have to do a little more research but as soon as it goes on sale you'll be the first person I talk to.

Sweet!

So I think I have a pretty concrete and definite build in the works. After much research, I think the PTE5857 on a good top mount manifold and 38mm WG will be just perfect, and I really want to do a Haltech PS1000 ECU. I love the idea of a MAP set up rather than MAF. I've heard lots of good things about the ease of use and control of this ECU. 32x32 tuning resolution, plenty of inputs and outputs, real time tuning and datalogging, all sorts of other goodies like anti-lag, nitrous and meth control, boost by gear, it looks sweet. So yeah, that's where I sit right now. Time to gather funds, although it's Christmas time and I have a girlfriend, so that's going to put a dent into my cash flow

I'm still a big fan of the Nistune setup honestly... However a buddy of mine and I rewired his 1G DSM to use the PS1000 and it is actually a pretty nice setup, esspecially for the money! IIRC they even have a patch harness for the SR so that would help as well.

Remember PTE/Garret tend to be a little conservative on their ratings. The turbos have proven to support even a little more whp than the advertised crank hp.

Yea for your SR the PTE5857 should be a great setup. People have still gotten almost 600whp with those things when pushed! So it should be really happy around 500whp. Like I said I'd bet that thing spools right around 4000 and hits hard... Leaving you a really wide, high horsepower band. Your torque number probably won't be much behind your horsepower number!

The 6262 I was/am still considering for my RB. It is actually a big turbo (Almost 800whp capable), as your RSX buddy will find out. It is A TON bigger than a 50trim. Two totally different leagues! The 6262 will outflow the 35r considerably with only a *slightly* worse spool than a 35r... So I think your buddy may not like the spool characteristics of that turbo and might actually do better with a smaller setup himself... Unless he truly plans on running around with 600+whp in his FWD honda?!

Yeah, I've heard lots of good things about the PS1000, and yes! It does have a patch harness for the SR20 stock ECU, so plug and play away.

I can't find anything that I don't like about the PTE5857, except maybe its lack of BB, but according to my buddy with the RSX, the billet wheel is light so it helps spool speed better than standard journal bearing turbos. Price is sweet, perfect HP rating (with a little wiggle room for more), it looks like we have a winner.

Haha, well, my buddy is aware that it is larger than a 35R, and he wanted that. He had actually ordered a 35R and then cancelled the order when he saw the 6262. He is building over the winter a K24 block with a 2.7 stroker kit, 11:1 compression, and a 6262. Yes, he wants 650 HP in his FWD Honda. The thing is really built to handle it though. Rebuilt trans with super nice race cut gears, upgraded axles, A1000 fuel pump, 1000cc injectors, HonData standalone ECU, totally done up suspension, the car is sick. Now he wants BIG numbers lol. He owns a race shop by my area in Midlothian and has done tons of big power builds, so he knows what he's doing. Lol I think it's crazy, but he already started tearing out his motor

fastSRmedic wrote:Yeah, I've heard lots of good things about the PS1000, and yes! It does have a patch harness for the SR20 stock ECU, so plug and play away.

I can't find anything that I don't like about the PTE5857, except maybe its lack of BB, but according to my buddy with the RSX, the billet wheel is light so it helps spool speed better than standard journal bearing turbos. Price is sweet, perfect HP rating (with a little wiggle room for more), it looks like we have a winner.

Haha, well, my buddy is aware that it is larger than a 35R, and he wanted that. He had actually ordered a 35R and then cancelled the order when he saw the 6262. He is building over the winter a K24 block with a 2.7 stroker kit, 11:1 compression, and a 6262. Yes, he wants 650 HP in his FWD Honda. The thing is really built to handle it though. Rebuilt trans with super nice race cut gears, upgraded axles, A1000 fuel pump, 1000cc injectors, HonData standalone ECU, totally done up suspension, the car is sick. Now he wants BIG numbers lol. He owns a race shop by my area in Midlothian and has done tons of big power builds, so he knows what he's doing. Lol I think it's crazy, but he already started tearing out his motor

Ahh sounds like a nasty RSX... But yea even my low 400whp SRT-4 got boring with FWD, I can only imagine what 650 would have been like.

As for the BB 5857, ask and you shall receive:
http://forums.evolutionm.net/vendor-announcements/449868-new-release-precision-turbo-billet-5857-turbo-w-pte-cartridge.html

As for the BB 5857, ask and you shall receive: Smile

Wow... air cooled ceramic BB 5857.... I need a moment to catch my breath. Hahaha.
That is sick. Maybe I can justify the $400 price jump from the journal bearing to this one...

Think it's worth it? Air-cooled ceramic BB just sounds so sweet. No water lines, longer lasting, lighter, faster spool than traditional steel BB... Damn, that's gotta be quick with the billet wheel.

And yeah, I'd never do 650 whp in a FWD anything. But, to each their own I suppose.

what are u building the car for?

are you sure your not from WI?

Haha yeah, I'm sure I'm not from Wisconsin. SW suburbs of Chicago.

And I'm building the car for primarily a fun DD but I also drag it. I know, it could be much easier and cheaper to get a 5.0 foxbody Mustang, but then I'd be like all my friends, and I like being unique. So it makes sense to me to get a nice medium-sized top mount that I can have a low boost DD setting and a high boost drag one too. I have a fully built motor, why not get the most out of it?

Rad Mike wrote:are you sure your not from WI?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

lol'd

Whats the going rate on that BB center section turbo anyway? Looks nice.

The journal bearing turbo is around $900 and the BB is $1400. I think I'm going to have to go BB. Air cooled and ceramic bearings with a billet wheel? That thing is gonna spool so friggin fast.

Thats pretty reasonable!

Yea they are a good deal. Also if you call some of the vendors directly sometimes they are even a little cheaper.

My buddy got the 6262 journal bearing billet wheel for $870 shipped from a vendor. He didn't even argue or barter, that's just what the salesman offered lol. Now that I weigh the cost-benefits of BB, I may just do the journal. Apparently on an Evo 8 (2.0L, 8.5:1 CR) and a 6057 JB they made 30 psi at 4500 rpm, which is sick. I may do that, the 6057 JB instead of the 5857. I'd be looking to push maybe 24 psi, so with my ~2.1L 10.5:1 CR motor I can imagine 24 psi would come on at maybe 4000 rpm? That's just peachy for me lol. And what it lacks in spool speed it'll make up for in flow rate and top end. Pound for pound it'll make more power than the 5857, maybe just a few ticks slower. Thoughts?

Yea either or really. Initially I was going to say 6057, but I figured if you never really had plans to go near 600whp, then it was just extra spool time for nothing. But really I'm sure the 6057 is also a great turbo, my guess is maybe 200-300 rpm worse spool. At least that is about what people in the forums online seem to suggest.

Mind you this is just a guess but I'd bet its like 4200ish for the 6057 and like 4000 or a little under for the 5857. If you can live with the former than go for it.

http://noriyaro.com/?p=3040#more-3040

here dude has a 2.2 sr20 with a r33 trans using the Racing Emotion R custom bellhousing.

cuz i know u were askin if it could be done...guess so

so it's been a month what you gonna do?

I'm keeping my SR. I have in the works a new turbo set up with a Precision 6057 Billet turbo and BC 264 cams and a tune, hopefully that will keep me content for a while.

DockSide55 wrote:Why do u feel the need for 500 whp on an s chassis?

Anyway. How's the spool time on that 2871r? Is it laggy as fuck?

if i ever used a sr motor again..
i would do a 2871r.
best street turbo i've driven in a car with.

spools up sick nasty fast (even with a baaaaad exhaust leak)

my friend had that 353whp ca with a topmount t3/t4 .60 and i pulled on him by like 3 cars before switching from 2nd to 3rd.


anyway...

trade ur motor setup for my vg30dett and u can do a crazy swap =]
motors internals are good for 600whp.

and i'll take that sr and put it in my z32.